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Jack
28-07-2004, 02:29 PM
Thinking of getting a photo printer. Anyone has any suggestions on which brand/model to get?

Jack

gadrian
28-07-2004, 04:23 PM
Thinking of getting a photo printer. Anyone has any suggestions on which brand/model to get?

Jack

Epson R310/210 - Upto A4
Epson 2100 - Upto A3.

They may not be the fastest printest around.. something that Canon is.. but they have really good print quality.. and their pigment inks are beautiful.

david.tan
28-07-2004, 04:38 PM
Epson R310/210 - Upto A4
Epson 2100 - Upto A3.

Agree with gadrian, go for epson or canon, this two brand r most recomm ! :D

malek
28-07-2004, 04:52 PM
1. minimum 6 colour, 5 + 1 black.
2. individual ink tank (most important..)

good luck.

epson R210 :D

atwl77
28-07-2004, 06:42 PM
If you have cash try looking for a dye sub like the Canon CP-200/300 (up to 4R) or one of the Olympus models (don't remember model) for up to 8R... 8)


:)atwl

kimi
28-07-2004, 08:33 PM
If you got money to burn, go for HP Photosmart 7960 or Canon 905D. The color is life-like. Using individual cartridge.

-kimi-

Matt
28-07-2004, 08:34 PM
It depends on your budget. If it's limited, then I don't recommend you go for Epson for one good reason... the inks are not refillable and the chip that is attached to the cartridge fixes the amount of pages you can print, regardless if there's still ink in it or not.

Also Epson printers have embedded head in them, unlike Canon whose head is on the cartridge. This makes Epson susceptible to head contamination and you'll have to change the head or printer when it becomes clogged.

On the other hand, Epson prints are very nice....

red406
01-08-2004, 05:34 PM
kl's pc fair,
canon had a good deal on the i865 photo printer, trade in any printer, old/new, working not working, regardless of brand...i865 selling for rm728.00, with trade in you pay only rm478.00!!! would have bought it but already got the i850...

maxby
02-08-2004, 08:54 AM
Have you considered Fuji Frontier printers? May be cheaper in the long run....just do the maths.....great results from a half a million dollar machine. :thumbsup: :lol: :ph34r:

cheewooi
12-08-2004, 11:08 PM
Recently, I've seen a modification to epson printer which can hold 125ml of ink..compared to the original cartridge onli 8ml! The modification on external ink tank! The modification cost differ according to the printer models most probaly cost around Rm600 for modification but guarantee you'll save a lot on printing photos! The system is called Continious Ink System (CIS) or Continious Flow System (CFS)!

http://www.shortcourses.com/how/cis/1270cis.jpg
http://www.shortcourses.com/how/cis/cis.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/cfs/cfs820_2.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/cobra/cfs_p900.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/overview3.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/cfs/r200overview.jpg

Some of the part in CFS /CIS
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/890cartset.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/tiewrap.jpg

Check out these site for more information:
InkSupply.com (http://www.inksupply.com/)
Continious Inks System (http://www.nomorecarts.com/)
InkjetArt (http://www.inkjetart.com/)

Hope this help! :lol:

chinks
12-08-2004, 11:15 PM
Whoa!!! This looks really neat!

BurgaFlippinMan
13-08-2004, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by cheewooi@Aug 12 2004, 11:08 PM
Recently, I've seen a modification to epson printer which can hold 125ml of ink..compared to the original cartridge onli 8ml! The modification on external ink tank! The modification cost differ according to the printer models most probaly cost around Rm600 for modification but guarantee you'll save a lot on printing photos! The system is called Continious Ink System (CIS) or Continious Flow System (CFS)!

http://www.shortcourses.com/how/cis/1270cis.jpg
http://www.shortcourses.com/how/cis/cis.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/cfs/cfs820_2.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/cobra/cfs_p900.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/overview3.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/cfs/r200overview.jpg

Some of the part in CFS /CIS
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/890cartset.jpg
http://www.inksupply.com/html/images/tiewrap.jpg

Check out these site for more information:
InkSupply.com (http://www.inksupply.com/)
Continious Inks System (http://www.nomorecarts.com/)
InkjetArt (http://www.inkjetart.com/)

Hope this help! :lol:
Wasn't this at PCFAIR last year? :D

cheewooi
13-08-2004, 07:42 AM
Yes, I saw it since last year PC fair and recently PC fair also have it but with different manufacturer...If not mistaken the manufacturer is SEPOM ink..anyway this kinda modification no need to reset the chip on the cartridge cause they already crack the chip in the cartrtidge and set it to infinite. I also come accros one site which is DIY site to modify yours epson printer to CIS / CFS system and they also teach you how to make your own chip resetter! It is much more cheaper than you send in your printer for modification, but for those newbie and those who know nothing about the modification, it is advisable not to try it or you'll fry your printer..hehe :D

Here are the site, check it out!

Eddie's El-Cheapo CIS (Continuous Inking System) (http://www.eddiem.com/photo/CIS/cis.htm)
http://www.eddiem.com/photo/CIS/crp2481.JPG
http://www.eddiem.com/photo/CIS/sml2480.jpg
http://www.eddiem.com/photo/CIS/1160/cis1160a.jpg

Another photography site of the author:
Eddie's Photography page (http://www.eddiem.com/photo/index.html)

:nodyes:

hliew
17-08-2004, 12:11 AM
CFS saves money on ink but the first outlay to attach the system is almost half the costs of the printer, that's why it doesnt take off like a rocket yet.(my 3 cents). By the way, what about the print head replacements even for the replaceable ink cartridge type recommending I guess 3 replacements ink cartridges should replace also the print head(expensive stuff). Not like HP type where ink and head is one. Anyway, all this ink and head is really confusing me.

cheewooi
17-08-2004, 12:47 AM
By the way, what about the print head replacements even for the replaceable ink cartridge type recommending I guess 3 replacements ink cartridges should replace also the print head(expensive stuff). Not like HP type where ink and head is one. Anyway, all this ink and head is really confusing me.
Regarding the print head replacement, Epson have a build in print head, Canon have removable print head and both Lexmark and HP have the print head on the ink cartridge itself.

I had quote Canon on the replacement of the print head and it cost me a bang! And for Epson printer, nothing much to say about it, whenever the printer head is damaged, the best solution is throw the old printer and get a new one! Unless u know how to repair the printer head! There's a repair solution for clogged print head I found somewhere in ClubSNAP (http://www.clubsnap.org)! From the article, to remove the clog, just dip a few drops of windows washer (which contrain ammonia) into the print head (you'l need to remove the cartridge before drip a few drops of windows washer and leave it for a few hours before start to use the printer again! After few hours, reinstall the printer cartridge and do some head cleaning!

As for Lexmark and HP which has a build in print head on the cartridge, in the long run they saved a lot! Why they saved a lot? Because, the cartridge is refillable and whenever the print head is damaged, just go and get original cartridge will do and your printer will print like new! If compared to Canon and Epson, even thought I assume you use original ink all the times, after a certain time, the print head will turn out not so good!Lexmark and HP printer which can changed the cartridge anytime and you'l get new printhead each time you change the cartridge because the cartridge come with the printhead!

As for the CFS, there's no need to changed the print head just supply the continious ink and the printer will run! But if there's problem with the print head.. throw it away and get back the same printer model cause the CFS in the old printer can be disassembled and will still can reinstall in the same model printer! :lol:

hliew
19-08-2004, 09:46 AM
Thanks for the explanation but I am more confused. I thought there are only 2 types of printer heads in the market:
1. HP/Lexmark - built onto the print cartridge as you described
2. Epson/Canon - replaceable ink cartridge without print heads, but requires replacement of the printer heads attached to the printer when it wears out.
Am I getting it or something else, still confused.

cheewooi
19-08-2004, 09:55 AM
1. HP/Lexmark - built onto the print cartridge as you described
2. Epson/Canon - replaceable ink cartridge without print heads, but requires replacement of the printer heads attached to the printer when it wears out.

As for the 1st statement, you're correct! The 2nd one, Epson have their print head build onto the printer itself, you can't dismantle the print head! Whereas Canon have separate print head - wat i mean here is a replaceable print head, anything wrong with the print head, just go to Canon and get a new print head which is consideratebly expensive. As for Epson, anything wrong with the print head, you need to send your printer to Epson service center and let the technician do the replacement for you caue the print head is build into the printer!

that's all!

hliew
19-08-2004, 11:38 PM
Very much thank you, at least I get it right this time. Another silly question, will the print head wears out after 5(any number) replacements of ink cartridge considering the high speed that the ink squits through the holes. I dont mean clogging which is blocking the nozzle but what I mean is the hole gets bigger thus out of spec. .

cheewooi
20-08-2004, 12:28 AM
Another silly question, will the print head wears out after 5(any number) replacements of ink cartridge considering the high speed that the ink squits through the holes. I dont mean clogging which is blocking the nozzle but what I mean is the hole gets bigger thus out of spec. .
Regarding this I am not so sure about the hole getting bigger. But any printer in the longer run will eventually wear or tear, which is normal for all sorts of product we use. It's just the matter of how long can it last, if a printer is well taken care of, it will eventually last longer compared to those printer which doesn't have much caring :lol:

Currently, I m using Epson C43UX and my experience using inkjet printer, it is better don't shut off the printer eventhough you didn't use it. My printer has been turned on since the day I bought it... i think more than 5 months already...except reset and maybe so cleaning on the printer! I owned C41UX before and I turned OFF and leave it there for onli 2 weeks, the printer head clogged and i tried all sort of way 2 unclogged the printer but too bad the ink already hardened! Still remember that time i just bought it for 1 month and using original ink! For me, it's advisable to leave the printer turned ON everytime cause the heat will prevent the ink from drying out and clogged the printer head! ;)

syahrin73
20-08-2004, 03:29 AM
This is another alternative for digital image owners. For those who doesn't have a high resolution printers or image printers, here is an alternative for you to print without all the hassles to go the shops and get you picture printed.

go to www.fujifilm.com.my and register online. You can upload then tick the picture u want to print. Price? not that expensive. I already tried and it is very convenience. U can either pick it you self or post it to you home. go on and try....

Btw, of course, if you only have a valid credit card, master or visa or JCB...