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    The bane of photographers.

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    How many times have you heard these lines and many more? Some people out there are fixated with their skewed facts that all there is to photography is point and push the button. This article and video simply says it all...

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    I always get this question asked.
    When I come up with a picture I shot and share...and it catches their eye,.....They FIRST ask me what camera I have.
    Which model/camera make ? will be the next question.
    How much I pay for it ?
    Many are fixated by the idea an expensive one gives the best.

    The last question they would ask.....Do I do weddings ?

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    I know exactly what you mean. And it seems many people think that the camera is the all and end all for a good photo.

    A few years ago I was in LiJiang, China, taking a night shot with my camera on a tripod. Some Chinese guy walked passed and commented to his friend, "He looks like a professional photographer, but his camera is not."

    I have always thought that the skill lies in understanding the variables in taking a photo, and understanding the capabilities and limitations of the camera used.

    I suppose that China guy would buy a top of the range camera and set it to auto, and then shoot away mindlessly.

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    Aiyo this things i always encounter..
    When I shooting runway like last month , I was shooting on a EOS 40D he ask me why I dont use 5D3 , so I ask him back , why should I shoot with a 5D3? He say it can make better pictures I told him , a good picture is made by the person behind the camera , not the camera.. He left looking at me with a stupid face like hating on me...

    And the “I Know A Guy Who Can Do It Much Cheaper" and “My Brother Can Shoot The Wedding" happens quite often when you meet up with a new couple and their families.. Usually family members is thinking all about saving cost.. We are called professional for a reason. What you pay is what you get!
    Photography is a never ending journey..

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    I always get this question asked.

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    cheap thing no good, good thing no cheap.
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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    When I used a D80 for an event shoot recently, I was asked this question, "You are pro, you should be using at least D700!"

    I just smiled at him and said, investing in better quality lens and skill will go far. He seems a bit enlightened.....
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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    Quote Originally Posted by jetfynn View Post
    When I used a D80 for an event shoot recently, I was asked this question, "You are pro, you should be using at least D700!"

    I just smiled at him and said, investing in better quality lens and skill will go far. He seems a bit enlightened.....
    had the same situation before... was using D90... the guy told me pro should be using FX...

    Then i told him, my only FX is my old trusty F50 film SLR...
    The best equipment in your bag is your attitude.

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    Those were issues much debated and I agree to most.

    Better cameras don't take better pictures but they do meet higher requirements. If you shoot fine art or family pictures any cameras will do but let's not deny that the success rate of a D4 is much higher than a D80 when it comes to high speed photography. Also when it comes to serious resolution and detail medium format still rules.

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    I think many would agree that the camera you ought to have is the one that suits your needs best. Since the 5D3, I've seen many mediocre shots from dudes who were mediocre before splurging on the latest gear. The only difference is a lighter wallet and an over-inflated misplaced confidence.

    Funny thing is, those same dudes actually discuss with me on how they shouldn't be struggling with low light shots (seeing that they are using the 5D3), but in fact, they still are having difficulty. When I outperform them on the 50D, they can't believe it.

    Of course, as Loveshots has pointed out, some circumstances may have higher requirements which lower end bodies may not be able to cope with.

    So what does one need?
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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    Quote Originally Posted by dominiquekee View Post
    I think many would agree that the camera you ought to have is the one that suits your needs best. Since the 5D3, I've seen many mediocre shots from dudes who were mediocre before splurging on the latest gear. The only difference is a lighter wallet and an over-inflated misplaced confidence.

    Funny thing is, those same dudes actually discuss with me on how they shouldn't be struggling with low light shots (seeing that they are using the 5D3), but in fact, they still are having difficulty. When I outperform them on the 50D, they can't believe it.

    Of course, as Loveshots has pointed out, some circumstances may have higher requirements which lower end bodies may not be able to cope with.

    So what does one need?


    To me, a camera that can be utilised to the fullest by the photographer to create the picture that can have an impact on the viewers is sufficient for many situations. Sometimes even an image from an Iphone can win awards too!

    Perhaps in situations like what Loveshots mentioned, for high speed photography, in order to have a better success rate, a higher better quality camera will be better. He is absolutely right on that. Then again, how many times will an average photographer be in that situation? Similarly, when talking about speed, most of us would love to have a Ferrari or a Maserati to drive.

    Then again, let's not kid ourselves, how many of us actually own one?

    Let me share 1 picture which I took with a small compact camera called Panasonic Lumix LX3 for an event last year.

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    Quote Originally Posted by jetfynn View Post
    To me, a camera that can be utilised to the fullest by the photographer to create the picture that can have an impact on the viewers is sufficient for many situations. Sometimes even an image from an Iphone can win awards too!

    Perhaps in situations like what Loveshots mentioned, for high speed photography, in order to have a better success rate, a higher better quality camera will be better. He is absolutely right on that. Then again, how many times will an average photographer be in that situation? Similarly, when talking about speed, most of us would love to have a Ferrari or a Maserati to drive.

    Then again, let's not kid ourselves, how many of us actually own one?

    Let me share 1 picture which I took with a small compact camera called Panasonic Lumix LX3 for an event last year.

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    That's a champion shot Sifu Jetfynn!

    For the record, I rate the Lumix LX3 pretty high! Hehehe...
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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    o me, a camera that can be utilised to the fullest by the photographer to create the picture that can have an impact on the viewers is sufficient for many situations.


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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    A question that I got asked quite often eversince I bought my A57 is "Why buy Sony? * better la!" replace * with Canon or Nikon.

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    I think it common nowaday, ppl will look the camera model as some sort of quality guarantee. I help my fren shoot wedding once with 1000d. How intimidating when the family member were shooting with d7000
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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    Actually I'm still looking for a class or short courses to learn more about the technique in photography... and understand what photography is all about... I picked up photography as a hobby coz its the most convenient one and I have no other hobby beside eating... Haha!

    I like reading that Jetfynn story about his student in photography.... and mingthein's blog also helps to enlighten me on certain aspect of photography...

    Then again I can't deny the fact that better gears helps greatly (as I have not enuf knowledge to prepare for the event) Previously I have a D80 and I'm not happy with it... Then I bought a D7k and I can shoot better! Then itchy hand say buy D800 and I'm happier..!!

    I also realise that not many people like to share the technique and the preparation made for their shoot... I cannot visualise how the sifus do it... For example, I don't know how to do a panning shot (with all the gears that I have) until a friend taught me... Haha!
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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    One more thing about the "professionals" ... who are not professionals at all.... There are people like me who don't mind paying good money for good services... and it applies to all including doctors, specialist, chefs and photographers...

    The reputation of the individual or the firm is very very important and it is up to the person or firm to build it up... else you will be just another average pro photographer... Your ability to convince your customer and explain to them the time and effort taken to produce the end results is very important...

    I have come across some "pro" photographers which come up with mediocre photos... Don't get me wrong, there are so many people out there who offered "pro" services... if you know what I mean...

    You can even see lots of misconception on this forum discussion on the uses of lenses... you buy F1.4 becoz u want lowlight...
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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    nice

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    To give you guys a musical analogy, here's a famous line from the late great legendary Mr Guitar ... Chet Atkins

    Atkins walks out of a recording studio (or during a break at a gig).

    Someone tells him: "Boy, Chet, that guitar sure sounded good."

    Atkins puts the guitar down, leans it against the wall and asks, "How does it sound now?"


    Good tools help ... but there's no helping a bad carpenter.

    I once was at small family gathering where one of the rich guys was showing off his new top-of-the-range DSLR ... a few days later, his wife sent us the photos he took, they were so bad, I quickly skipped through them and deleted everything ...

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    Re: The bane of photographers.

    I thought the bane of photographers is the backlogs accumulated through years of shooting!
    Photography is like an adventure of a lifetime!

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