Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 49

Thread: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Advertise here
    photomalaysia@gmail.com

    Hi Fellow PMers,
    Its about sharing my little experience on Macro.1 year already..where are you now?
    I better do something.
    This is my first ever written experience so I apologize if its silly to post this.
    There is no prejudice against different camera makes.If I do make some mistakes do point out along the way.
    This is my story…

    It all started a year plus ago.
    I joined PM in Jan 2011.
    Nikon D90 was my first purchase.I loved landscapes and macro.
    I was inspired by the pictures fellow PMers posted.
    I was poisoned and poisoned.
    Skipping all that I started becoming serious in Macro in late August last year(2011).
    I knew nothing..just shoot.Google for facts,analyze,go shoot again.Alone.
    Still shooting alone.
    Same place where I started out..at the foothills of Cameron.

    AUGUST 2011
    This was my first diffuser.
    Name:  1.JPG
Views: 1390
Size:  153.2 KB

    Name:  2.JPG
Views: 1393
Size:  165.3 KB

    and this was the outcome. Name:  DSC_0519.jpg
Views: 1405
Size:  72.6 KB

    SEPTEMBER 2011 Name:  Couple.jpg
Views: 1411
Size:  160.4 KB

    My photos were a laughing stock.Some of my shots are still.
    Sifus such as Liewwk,OM(Kurt),MarcusKam,Sideview,Wilsonblitz,KJT eng,Big Brother Derrick,Samo,TeoKF if I had missed out I do apologize were like a role model.They still are from the bottom of my heart.
    I needed to do something to improve.MacroPhotography i was told was a steep learning process.
    It does`t mean you got the image right….thats it.I can still improve.
    So DIY-lah(do it yourself)
    to be continued…..

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to irenecal For This Useful Post:

    maxby (04-08-2012),mihar1975 (05-08-2012)

  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    I wanted to do my best,I had to do something to better my lighting.
    These was my Generation 2 prototype.
    Here were the steps.If it bores you..please skip the pictures.
    Name:  1.JPG
Views: 1389
Size:  198.9 KB

    Name:  2.JPG
Views: 1385
Size:  181.8 KB

    Name:  3.JPG
Views: 1372
Size:  158.9 KB

    Name:  4.JPG
Views: 1351
Size:  142.6 KB

    Name:  5.JPG
Views: 1337
Size:  143.2 KB

    This was one of the selected ones for that month.Posted in PM.Thread posted.
    Name:  I wish I can grow up fast.jpg
Views: 1337
Size:  77.8 KB
    to be continued…...

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    My humble gear grew to this present and I`m still using it.
    Nikon 105 + x1.4Kenko TC+3ET.
    Name:  My Humble Gear.jpg
Views: 2978
Size:  199.4 KB

    Still I wasn`t happy.I needed a macro flash bracket.
    Bought it from Tiwei.Thanks Tiwei.It was a DIY setup and my my my..was it heavy as you can see in my next DIY diffuser that I had conjured up.
    Name:  1.jpg
Views: 1312
Size:  76.4 KB

    Name:  2.jpg
Views: 1280
Size:  97.2 KB

    Name:  3.jpg
Views: 1254
Size:  94.8 KB

    Name:  4.jpg
Views: 1234
Size:  99.1 KB

    Name:  5.jpg
Views: 1233
Size:  139.8 KB

    Name:  My Latest 21st Nov2011.jpg
Views: 1236
Size:  197.6 KB

    And the results…
    Name:  crabbie2.jpg
Views: 1223
Size:  51.2 KB
    to be continued….

  5. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to irenecal For This Useful Post:

    Bap3 (03-09-2012),KengKaboo (10-08-2012),leiso (20-09-2012),maxby (04-08-2012),Stupe (18-10-2012)

  6. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    My cravings for a better image and lightning went on to
    DECEMBER 2011.There were 2 more of my crazy ideas that month.

    5th December 2011
    Called it X Wing Fighter.
    Name:  XWING5DEC2011.jpg
Views: 1208
Size:  67.0 KB

    Name:  XWING FIGHTER 5DEC2011.jpg
Views: 1204
Size:  118.3 KB

    i needed results..
    Name:  Light cast.JPG
Views: 1227
Size:  138.9 KB

    11th December 2011
    This was the time I used the Kirk(not Kurt its Kirk) Macro Flash Bracket.
    Name:  1.jpg
Views: 1232
Size:  172.3 KB

    Name:  2.jpg
Views: 1190
Size:  210.8 KB

    Name:  3.jpg
Views: 1186
Size:  184.1 KB

    It did light up the Y axis making it a 3 D effect.Hmmm…lighting harsh still.
    Posted in PM.
    Name:  Rise of the treehopper.JPG
Views: 1179
Size:  98.5 KB to be continued….

  7. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    FEBRUARY 2012
    I called it Octopus cos it looked like octopus arm.
    Something like Fotopro dmm-901 dual flash bracket.OJTee helped me purchase it.Thanks,bro.
    Alas..one of its arms broke after couple of usage.
    Called it Tie fighter funneled.
    Attachment 264828

    Attachment 264829
    Captured image before retiring it.
    A Dolichopodidae(Long legged fly).Lighting too harsh.
    Name:  Dolichopodidae.jpg
Views: 1185
Size:  143.0 KB

    MARCH 2012
    3rd March 2012That was before I took Dhal Bhat given to me by Uncle Maxby and Uncle Yusuf.
    This is to mount my 3 SBR200 Nikon Speedlights on to the 105mm which is a 62mm filter thread.There is an adapter for it.
    Name:  1.jpg
Views: 1153
Size:  67.6 KB

    Call this Powder Puff Girls.
    Name:  2.jpg
Views: 1145
Size:  85.8 KB

    Another treehopper variant.
    Name:  treehopper variant.jpg
Views: 1148
Size:  129.6 KB to be continued….

  8. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    So…am I satisfied.Answer is no.The quest for a new diffuser and better lighting must continue.

    I summarized up facts from all advices,sourced the internet and I finally made this.
    Its quite similar to the Powder Puff Girls(Gen 6).
    But,I tested by trial and error.
    Important fact is…

    1) Lightsource with diffuser should be kept apart in various layers.
    Why?the light passing through will get less and less.still light passes through to reach to subject,it will be less harsh.


    2) Preferably should have angulated light source for X and Y axis to have the 3 D effect.

    3) If intensities of light source can vary between the axis still good.I think this applies for portraiture also.

    I had made my mistakes over again and need to rectify them.
    An ideal setup would be a dedicated macro lens with flash.
    What sort of flash is alright.but…

    How would you put your flash in front of the lens?
    Either by assistance or a setup like a flash bracket or snoot diffuser.

    I had googled up queries on this…ultimately a dedicated macro setup end of story.
    Lessen your worries.But its costly.
    You got the X axis and y-axis covered.
    You can do portraiture or landscape format as you wish.

    So this is my GEN 7 setup of late July 2012.
    Made up of 2 diffusers taped up with masking tape.Nikon SW11(it came with the R1C1 kit).The loner(middle one)they didn`t supply together so must order separately.looks flimsy thats why got to tape it to prevent it from dropping.
    http://shashinki.com/shop/nikon-sw11...sh-p-1459.html
    You`ll notice the middle one hasn`t got one.i`ll be getting them soon.just ordered yesterday.
    Followed by 3 laters of opaque plastic wrap around with soft styrofoam.paper clip attached.
    rubberbands to keep them in place.
    Can take out if the diffusion down`t permit enough light to reach the subject.
    Thats when the usage of RAW comes in.can recover some details.

    Name:  Latest DIY late July 2012.jpg
Views: 1147
Size:  106.8 KB

    Name:  Latest DIY late July 2012(1).jpg
Views: 1132
Size:  139.1 KB

    Name:  Latest DIY late July 2012(2).jpg
Views: 1119
Size:  126.2 KB

    Name:  Latest DIY late July 2012(3).jpg
Views: 1112
Size:  134.8 KB

    Name:  Latest DIY late July 2012(4).jpg
Views: 1101
Size:  136.7 KB

    Landscape modeName:  Latest DIY late July 2012(5).jpg
Views: 1103
Size:  137.3 KB

    Top lighting portrait modeName:  Latest DIY late July 2012(6).jpg
Views: 1097
Size:  125.4 KB

    Side lighting portrait modeName:  Latest DIY late July 2012(7).jpg
Views: 1094
Size:  125.1 KB

    to be continued…...

  9. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Different diffuser setup from my buddies…fellow PMers.
    Name:  1.jpg
Views: 1723
Size:  117.9 KB

    Name:  2.jpg
Views: 1081
Size:  192.0 KB

    Name:  3.jpg
Views: 1074
Size:  157.5 KB

    Name:  4.jpg
Views: 1061
Size:  146.6 KB

    Name:  5.jpg
Views: 1088
Size:  115.7 KB

    I hope everyone benefits from my sharing.
    Even by viewing hopefully it will spruce up ones creativeness.
    Thankyou,PhotoMalaysia.
    Last edited by irenecal; 04-08-2012 at 05:05 PM.

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to irenecal For This Useful Post:

    Bap3 (03-09-2012),RaymondL (04-08-2012)

  11. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Batu Caves, Selangor
    Posts
    230
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    TQ for sharing irenecal... very interesting.
    I tried an external flash (Nissin DI866) with diffuser but the weight bordering me. Since I'm currently using a set of ext tube (manual) + reverse 50mm, I like my gear as light as possible, so I shoot with onboard flash + patato can diffuser. The view finder quite dark due to the ext tube and it's hard to focus manually. Sometime I use a small led flashlight to light my subject. In future, I'm thinking to get 28mm prime and ring flash (or do-it-myself).

  12. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Quote Originally Posted by triplet1701 View Post
    TQ for sharing irenecal... very interesting.
    I tried an external flash (Nissin DI866) with diffuser but the weight bordering me. Since I'm currently using a set of ext tube (manual) + reverse 50mm, I like my gear as light as possible, so I shoot with onboard flash + patato can diffuser. The view finder quite dark due to the ext tube and it's hard to focus manually. Sometime I use a small led flashlight to light my subject. In future, I'm thinking to get 28mm prime and ring flash (or do-it-myself).
    I was contemplating on one like that,small led flashlight just at the base of my holder not on focusing ring.
    Like the one we can get in Kinokuniya,Popular book Store or any books store.Reading light that clips on to book.
    That won`t be heavy.
    I was thinking of taping a Maglite on my setup like I`m going for military ops.
    The idea is good.Light,cheap and not messy.
    A)Name:  a.jpg
Views: 1067
Size:  68.7 KB I wouldn`t go for A)...it would attract unwanted attention.
    B)Name:  b.jpg
Views: 1045
Size:  82.1 KB
    c)Name:  c.jpg
Views: 1052
Size:  31.3 KB C) would be an idea If its powerful enough to light up for reading,instead of using it as a bookworm,
    it will help hunt for worms more so bugs.

    I think it would work for night macro too.For myself it would be 6am macro then.
    I need more rechargeable CR123A batteries now.
    >> On 28mm prime and ring flash.You mean you reverse the 50mm and also reverse the 28mm?
    I have no knowledge on that one.

  13. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    312
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    soooo deeeeeeeeeep.......

    Great write-up D !

  14. #11
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Kuantan, Malaysia
    Posts
    509
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    [QUOTE=irenecal;2090599]Different diffuser setup from my buddies…fellow PMers.
    Name:  1.jpg
Views: 1723
Size:  117.9 KB

    WOW...my J1 make the list haha...
    I think u are more than extreme la hehe
    Very Good Article... someday we will macro together this i promise u!

  15. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    PJ, Ipoh, Penang, Spore
    Posts
    32,696
    Thanks
    43
    Thanked 263 Times in 224 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Thanks for sharing Doc. I am promoting this to "Articles and Reviews".

  16. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Quote Originally Posted by ojtee View Post
    soooo deeeeeeeeeep.......
    Great write-up D !
    Thanks for having a look at my evolving diffusers.
    Its not the end of my diffusers though i.e. Gen 7.
    The final setup must be comfortable to the user and he/she can achieve good images weather in portrait mode or landscape mode.
    With soft diffuse light.
    One Sifu told me..just shoot a watch.Watch is reflective at arms.You will know how much you need to diffuse the light.
    So..insects which are having reflective body already you got them covered.Which is if they want to model for you-lah.
    The technique which will be in a different section.

  17. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    [QUOTE=suhazliey;2090672]
    Quote Originally Posted by irenecal View Post
    Different diffuser setup from my buddies…fellow PMers.
    WOW...my J1 make the list haha...
    I think u are more than extreme la hehe
    Very Good Article... someday we will macro together this i promise u!
    Your J1 very unique.Very few use J1 and share their macro setup.Thanks for being open minded.
    People would say…Is it a secret weapon? Oh you got this setup sure win prize one.
    No,I would say.Lets all enjoy photography with different experiences.
    Apply it practically,and see the result.
    2 people shooting the same bug with the same setup and technique isn`t going to be the same.
    You know why?..The Bug moved.
    In search for the right light is a great experience altogether.
    Some use A4 paper,vellum paper,tracing paper.Got people use toilet paper..any macro kaki?
    I will definitely join you for Macro with keropok lekor with everything nice one day.

  18. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Quote Originally Posted by maxby View Post
    Thanks for sharing Doc. I am promoting this to "Articles and Reviews".
    Thanks,Uncle Maxby.

  19. #16
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Batu Caves, Selangor
    Posts
    230
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    ' >> On 28mm prime and ring flash.You mean you reverse the 50mm and also reverse the 28mm?
    I have no knowledge on that one
    .'

    Only 28mm. I read that the magnification is higher than 50mm. Hope I can get it before raya to experiment during raya leave.

  20. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Quote Originally Posted by triplet1701 View Post
    ' >> On 28mm prime and ring flash.You mean you reverse the 50mm and also reverse the 28mm?
    I have no knowledge on that one
    .'
    Only 28mm. I read that the magnification is higher than 50mm. Hope I can get it before raya to experiment during raya leave.
    Working distance also is another factor.
    My setup above just gives me bout 2.5:1,I think.

  21. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Sg Long
    Posts
    1,560
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Derrick... so informative leh...
    i also just changed my lighting system to ring flash...
    trying out the lighting and diffusing it as much as possible
    failed numerous times already
    gonna add some ext tube n telecon too
    www.flickr.com/photos/reaganchen

  22. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    IPOH
    Posts
    4,609
    Thanks
    320
    Thanked 841 Times in 600 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Quote Originally Posted by reaganchen View Post
    Derrick... so informative leh...
    i also just changed my lighting system to ring flash...
    trying out the lighting and diffusing it as much as possible
    failed numerous times already
    gonna add some ext tube n telecon too
    Thanks,Reagan.Glad you found this useful.
    Ringflash would yield different results on the jumpers eyes for example.Very cool look.
    The idea is to get it layered by layer.Light softens up as it pass through gaps of air and layers.
    Placing several layers with no gap at all would permit light to be diffused in a very very short working distance.The further away the harsher the light and chances it will be underexposed.
    Its all trial and error.
    Judge your most comfortable working distance and work from there.

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to irenecal For This Useful Post:

    cyberixus (10-08-2012)

  24. #20
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    30
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts

    Re: Sharing My Evolving Diffusers For Macro Step By Step

    Excellent write up, it would be useful for us to improve our lighting.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10-12-2009, 11:25 AM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 16-11-2009, 11:16 AM

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •