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betazone
PM'er Regular
Registered: February 2005
Location: KL/Singapura/Batam
Posts: 192
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(Thu) 3 August 2006 9:23pm
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HI, I prefer slightly more burning especially the white clouds area.
Maybe a stronger element for the foreground as well. Just my humble opinion.
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Artline
PM'er Mocha
Registered: February 2006
Location: PJ, Ipoh, JB
Posts: 717
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(Thu) 3 August 2006 10:23pm
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Greeting jay
Wah!!!, a photograph with a professional touch I see here.
A good B&W photograph conversion with a generous high contrast between light and dark areas.
The ominous underbellies black clouds in the fore sky with the leads in line had made a diagonal across the photo leading the viewer’s eye into the far horizon. It had given direction and depth. It leads the viewer’s eye to separate the landscape of the dark subject of the shrubs on the right and water on the left. The distant horizon in high contrast draws a line like a sharp edge separating the sky from the land giving dimension and height. Hmmmm…… a very good composition I must say.
The distant lofty clouds streaming into the distant horizon with its exhilarating pattern is echoed by the sun exposed gleaming white clouds cast shadows across the landscape. It has also complimented the ominous black clouds in fore sky interplaying to provide soft gradient transition and harsh transition to elevate the whole scene into higher dimension.
By positioning the horizon a third of the way up the frame, you have again given due weight to the changing dappled sky and emphasized the scene of spaciousness that characterizes the flat nature of the land……….
In my opinion if only you have a stronger picturesque focal point of interest, this is a masterpiece in the making……..
I am not sure whether you are aware that you can actually separate your digital colour image with the Split Channel RGB tool of many graphic programs. I am wondering whether this method will be able to get you an even more dramatic effect out from the scene in the RED or Green channel. It is just like taking B&W film with a red or green filter in front of the lens. I personally feel the effect of course cannot match the B&W film printed on a good quality fiber paper print.
You have made a very good attempt in simplifying the photo where you have brought the main scene out more and diminishing its surroundings. This is a typical example of a simplified version of a B&W photograph that brings out more to the viewer.
Well done.
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Jay
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Registered: July 2006
Posts: 3
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(Fri) 4 August 2006 1:20pm
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Heya Artline,
Thanks, i surprised myself a little bit, i must be doing something right or heading in the right general direction, thanks to your advice 
Turned it into B&W and it just looked more dramatic to me, so decided to post this version of the photo.
Im glad you felt the composition worked, ive been trying to think a bit more before pressing the shutter this week, and being a bit trigger-selective
I thought about a foreground subject or as you mention, a point of interest but just couldnt work out what or how. Hmmm that would have created more depth to the photo i guess, i must try to go back there and take the shot a little differently.
I did the b&w using ConverttoB&WPro 3.0 or something. Had to play with the different coloured mixers, so probably similar i suppose.
Thanks for your comments, it means a lot, always so constructive and encouraging.
Jason
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Jay
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Registered: July 2006
Posts: 3
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(Fri) 4 August 2006 1:21pm
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Betazone, thanks for your comments. I will keep that in mind for future landscapes! 
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Artline
PM'er Mocha
Registered: February 2006
Location: PJ, Ipoh, JB
Posts: 717
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(Fri) 4 August 2006 5:33pm
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Greeting jay
You are most welcome.
The image you depicted is a river in braided form. It is a river’s delta with shingle beds. It creates a passage across the plains. Hmmmm… you are in Canterbury, New Zealand?
I have some suggestions for your consideration as to what may be the likely compositional focus you may want to include to ascent the image with greater artistic impact.
Before you try this out, please have a better understanding on the geological behaviour of Wet Sands. Remember the two questions related to Wet Sands I have raised in one of your post? It can be quite mobile. If the plains have the sufficient bearing capacity to carry a human weight, you may want to request for an assistance (best lagi have a native) to walk on the single bed that has the leads in line to create deep footprints path to provide a stronger focus and add some drama onto the plains with your assistance stopping at a spot within the Golden third rule. Have your assistance carry a stick and have the stick resting on his shoulder in a slightly horizontal angle with both his hand on the stick to balance and provide stability to the composition and a sense of wondering in the plains.
Alternatively, you may want to throw some foods into the distant plains and await for some birds to come in flight to get their foods capturing them in moment.
These are just some small suggestions, I am sure by now and most probably in your next visit to the same place, your creative imagination will be evoked accordingly.
You need to have the perseverance and I see you have that. Good on you……..
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